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While I think their humor sometimes goes a little over the top, I thought I might mention the People's Cube's parody of the "I only sleep with Democrats" video and campaign. I think it's motivated by many of the same observations you have here, in that there's a suggestion that it doesn't actually make the campaigners or Democrats generally look all that great.
Given that most of the women I've ever dated have been Democrats to some degree or another, I really hope that the statistics cited there aren't true... ;-)
Liberal democracy facilitated mass advertising so has it only itself to blame?
May the party with the most babies win!
Yeah that is a great image.
And this used to be the Wild West.
If you switch "Democrat" to "Republican", and "SEIU" to "Chamber of Commerce", Will's argument would remain essentially unchanged, because illberal ideas don't become good just because they are bipartisan.
"women's bodies and sexuality are viewed as a resource at the disposal of the tribe, to be used as a prize to keep the coalition together"
And this kind of structure is our heritage from evolution - monkey society just ain't pretty. This is the insight that covers not just IOSwDs, but also honor killings and the Middle-Eastern practice of using young girls to settle certain debts of justice too.
What is so painful about IOSwD is that women buy into it, as if they don't get it - I guarantee any skirt wearing said T-shirt would immediately condemn the Pakistani tribal case of trading 5 little girls to "atone" for an accidental manslaughter of a first-born son, but swear to you that her slogan was just "irony."
As for the "denial of pleasure" WW mentions in his post, that would take you back to Michael Vassar's musings on the "strange shortage of sex."
It's not that sex is being 'promised' to liberal guys -- I don't think there's a single girl out there that would see this and hook up with a guy she normally wouldn't. It's about being selective in who you hook up with.
I've found myself practicing this in my private life somewhat, without really thinking about it. Libertarians, liberals, conservatives, sure, as long as they're on the right side of the most important issues. Because, frankly, once you think about it, fucking someone who's perfectly happy to get their jollies but doesn't want loving gay couples to get married is a huge fucking turn-off.
It's about being more selective, not about 'rewarding' anyone sexually for their politics. Your poorly thought-out comparison is little more than unhinged whining.
The politicization of the whole situation is such that last summer a liberal called me an "anti-feminist libertarian dinosaur," while in another conversation a proud Sarah Palin supporter called me "worse than Gloria Steinem."
Meanwhile, on one of Kerry Howley's bh.tv threads, a commenter patiently explained to me that I wasn't actually a twist at all. Yesterday I was credited with inventing "Hansonian feminism."
Now today I'm a misogynist. Thank goodness these brickbats won't really mess up my hair and I can keep dancing backwards in my 5-inch heels.
Also, why are you limiting this to women? It's clearly a campaign encouraging both men and women to be selective, so why are you falling back on old-school women-are-sluts-men-are-neutral bullshit?
But then again, as I said above, wingnuts don't grasp the idea that women are full human beings with agency.
But you're right, the left is proud to have women who like to have sex. I hope you enjoy your hand.
To the woman you linked, it's a personal choice about personal taste in companions. In the advertising campaign, it's a moral imperative and an organized campaign to "blue-ball" non-Democrats.
A "national advertising campaign"? It's a fucking shoestring operation. It's probably a dozen people and their friends that got together. Democrats tend to enjoy making funny youtube videos more than Republicans. Half the participants in *making* the video probably got laid in doing so, or were already friends, so I doubt they had to be terribly persuaded.
The idea that this is somehow indicative of the relative proportions on each side who factor in politics into their dating fails Statistics 101.
Your false dichotomy between "organized" and "personal" fails in the age of YouTube.
Here's a clue-by-four: the No on Prop 8 campaign in California had way better viral marketing, production, etc. than the Yes on 8 people, because all the creatives were supporting No on 8... and yet, Yes on 8 still won.
It's almost like the quality of their youtube videos didn't reflect the divide in the population or something!
Whatever happened to screwing the opposition?
On the other hand, the "dating intolerantly" thing is a different kettle of fish entirely. If we're talking about serious relationships, and we're talking about people who see themselves as genuinely politically engaged, whether as activists or thinkers or pundits or whatever, being with an ideological enemy strikes me as bizarre. You have to simultaneously care deeply for your partner, which I take to entail wishing them success in their chosen projects, while believing that those very projects are actively pernicious, and that your partner's triumph would make the world a worse place. You could take your beliefs seriously, or your partner seriously, but not both, I think.
(But yes, if we're just talking hot sex, Will is entirely right about the transgressive thing.)
One of the more satisfying "conquests" of my days when I was young and coarse enough to consider them such was a self-proclaimed hard-core Republican who once told me that I was the most liberal guy she had ever dated. (Which I found pretty shocking, since I considered myself a libertarian even then.)
It was terribly fun. And the relationship sucked.
Anyway, I only sleep with fiercely apolitical Canadians since I married one...
We're all glad you're busy fapping while cruising internet porn whenever "a naked woman" and "your life" have anything to do with each other.
But in case Will was wondering why "I only sleep with Democrats" seems like sound advice to many women, he need look no further than his own commenters.
Besides, conservative chicks have higher IQ's and therefore more vivid imaginations and, again, therefore better senses of eros. The best sex is not dirty and transgressive, it's almost painfully slow and erotic, and much, if not most, of it takes place in the mind.
I'll avoid the sex versus lovemaking tangent, except to say that it makes all the difference.
Now tell me, if I have discovered a means of ending the war, will you all second me?
CLEONICE
Yes verily, by all the goddesses, I swear I will, though I have to put my gown in pawn, and drink the money the same day.
MYRRHINE
And so will I, though I must be split in two like a flat-fish, and have half myself removed.
LAMPITO
And I too; why to secure peace, I would climb to the top of Mount Taygetus.
LYSISTRATA
Then I will out with it at last, my mighty secret! Oh! sister women, if we would compel our husbands to make peace, we must refrain...
CLEONICE
Refrain from what? tell us, tell us!
LYSISTRATA
But will you do it?
MYRRHINE
We will, we will, though we should die of it.
LYSISTRATA
We must refrain from the male altogether....
The sex was wonderful. I felt very vindicated knowing radical feminists, deep down, really wanted to be pinned down and on occasion tied to the bed by the man.
She ain't no Democrat.
This is Democratic noise and I would say the same thing on the other side.
I am also a Republican.
Not supposedly; it was in one of his books, which I have on my shelf. He was discussing the fantasy that many women have of being raped by a Nazi.
And I win the Godwin Award.