Will Wilkinson - Latest Comments in Is Childbirth National Service?

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Marvin McConoughey — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:58:45 -0000

A world of six billion people and mass poverty is not in need of higher population. Our country already suffers from declining petroleum production, rising environmental maintenance costs, limited water resources, and massive trade deficits. Rising population threatens a lower standard of living for future Americans, more rapid environmental deterioration, greater competition for farmland and housing, even faster depletion of natural resources and, eventually, food shortages and higher risk of disease epidemics.

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Lynn — Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:23:21 -0000

Thought you might like to see this. You're mentioned in it.

http://www.livejournal.com/community/cf_hardcore/1165412.html

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Gruntled — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:14:03 -0000

I think parenthood is not state service, but it is national service. I elaborate on this point at http://gruntledcenter.blogspot.com/.

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Laurie — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:26:53 -0000

Australia introduced an incentive program last year, aimed at encouraging people to have more children. The family receives $2,300 for each child. The Treasurer said, when interviewed, "You should have..one for your husband, one for your wife, and one for your country."

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Reginleif — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:49:58 -0000

I like the idea of pro-family policy (as long as that includes a non-bigoted notion of the family).

So would a childfree couple be thought of as a family? Guess not, from the rest of your post... you're not "really" part of a faaammmbleeee unless you've sprogged.

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Chris Farris — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:01:20 -0000

Ok, am I the only one who isn't totally creeped out between this article and the Nazi's desire for the women to bear more children to support the Reich?

Oh, and sorry for invoking Godwin's law, but this these similarities are creepy.

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Famous J — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:35:51 -0000

You talk about trying to maintain the public/private distinction. What, exactly, is marriage if not a massive intrusion of the public into the private?

At some point, the government decided that A) people are going to get married and B) this is a good thing, and so they put their stamp of approval on it, and lavish people who get married with whatever benefits they could to dream up.

In principle, this is no different than what Douhat and Salam are proposing, only replace "get married" with "have children".

Having said that, I agree that they could indeed come up with a less creepy way of putting it.

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

blammo — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:05:18 -0000

This is the inverse of China's "One child" policy, but substitutes social engineering instead of force.

This sounds suspiciously democrat. Wouldn't a true conservative argue that the best way to encourage people to have more children would be to lower the average American's tax burden, and let nature take its course?

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

brig@ddt.com — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:51:00 -0000

This is already policy. What is the child tax credit? $1000 per kid?

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Wintermute — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:03:04 -0000

Governments already subsidize childbirth highly. "Free" K-12 schooling and subsidized higher education tuition and grants, free or subsidized day care, tax and Social Security benefits for stay-at-home spouses.

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Castillon — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 08:09:12 -0000

Will Wilkinson,

Try:

Koonz, The Nazi Conscience

Koonz, Mothers in the Fatherland: Women, the Family and Nazi Politics

Stepheson, Women in Nazi Germany

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Brian Moore — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:38:11 -0000

Nice. You summed exactly how I feel about lots of things -- I think they're nice, but they don't need to be subsidized/controlled/regulated.

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

jb — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 02:25:05 -0000

Will,

Re: The Handmainds Tale - Don't waste your time. The book is, IMO, pedantic and annoying. Watch the movie instead - much less time spent, and exactly the same message.

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Will Wilkinson — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:33:49 -0000

Steve, No, I haven't. I'll give it a shot.

Re: Is Childbirth National Service?

Steven Horwitz — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:41:32 -0000

Will - ever read The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood? It takes your title question to its logical conclusion.