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Re: Philosophers Join the Fray

slarrow — Thu, 09 Dec 2004 10:21:43 -0000

Damn. You're right. I was visualizing the wrong pithy quote in my head: "all men by nature desire to know." I can practically see it on my mental page of my Pocket Aristotle. Sigh; that's what I get for relying on visual memory for quotations.

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Wed, 08 Dec 2004 11:43:27 -0000

slarrow, that was Socrates who said the unexamined life is not worth living.

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slarrow — Wed, 08 Dec 2004 08:52:56 -0000

Actually, I think this may work. I've only skimmed some of the older stuff, and I think these people may have some adjusting to do when confronted with the typical range of commentary you get on blogs. But this is a chance to make these folks realize that what they consider neutral ground is actually comprised of their assumptions. Aristotle told us that the unexamined life is not worth living; I think these people may find out that they haven't examined themselves nearly as thoroughly as they thought they had.

Re: Philosophers Join the Fray

Luka Yovetich — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:59:20 -0000

Thanks for the link, Will! I actually like the site. Even though I'm not a lefty it's nice to have a place to go to read probably the best commentary from that perspective available anywhere. (Although I see that Schmidtz from Arizona is part of the group. So they're obviously not all lefty.)

Re: Philosophers Join the Fray

Will Wilkinson — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 20:38:44 -0000

. . . like peach blossoms!

Re: Philosophers Join the Fray

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 15:38:38 -0000

Yeah, just why should a pretty face like JFK Jr.'s be entitled to a tax-exempt 100 million dollar trust fund? He was so dumb that he couldn't pass to bar after several attempts and we all know about his ability to fly a plane. Clearly noone in this country believes in a meritocracy or GWB would never have become President. And why are all the U.S Senators multi-millionaires? This is a country of, for and by the wealthy. And it stinks!

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Serious Proposal — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 15:23:23 -0000

The only way to defeat the right is to defang them by confiscating their excess property and putting them to work like the rest of us. Everybody has to pull their own weight. We can start with a luxury tax and by removing the tax-exempt status of churches and restoring the estate tax. Talk is cheap let's have some ...

--Serious Proposals

Re: Philosophers Join the Fray

Matt — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 07:24:39 -0000

These folks have proven that it's better to remain silent and be thought an out-of-touch, effete, lefty academic than to start a blog and remove all doubt.

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Brian W. Doss — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 06:10:53 -0000

OOps. guess not. :)

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Brian W. Doss — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 05:50:59 -0000

Bah. Did my comment get eaten? Feh.

Re: Philosophers Join the Fray

Brian W. Doss — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 05:50:21 -0000

I agree with my fellow Brian above- the latest posts are more in line of what I'd consider a "malicious parody foisted upon semi-public intellectuals" ala CT's pissy sarcastic response to Posner/Becker than a serious effort to try and communicate lefty ideas to righties.

Every promising post has been taken back, essentially, by other folk- first someone saying Garrison Keillor's sneering, wink-wink 'joke' about taking away (rightward-leaning) Christian rights to vote *was* funny and appropriate (and you unsophisticated righty rubes just can't appreciate his deep and harmless humor without explanation), to other people saying "we don't need Roe, we just need a constitutional amendment that codifies Roe into law" (as if that's some sort of great compromise, negating the point of the post that trying to keep the 5% fringe by keeping Roe is fueling the social conservatives and leading to the repeal of large parts of the 95% that majorities do favor), to other posts that essentially say "you religious conservatives are stupid" and "we're not saying we're against prayer in school, we're just against prayer in school- don't you get that big difference??"

The blog so far has boiled down to the usual caricature of peasant rubes (a literal analogy used; lefties are royalty who don't care that the peasants spit when they go by, but Righties are peasants whose feelings are hurt when the Royal Left holds its nose when passing) who need to be condescended to, to understand the Higher Truth of teh Left- which, unsurprisingly, is anti-clerical, anti-religious, technocratic-elitist-at-best [authoritarian socialist at worse], and nanny-statist, with an explicit goal of engineering out all the yucky/icky righty/red-state folkways in favor of uniform 'cosmopolitanism'.

Will, I'm a bit surprised given your position post-election that explicitly rejected the condescending lefty view to red-staters that you haven't had the same reaction as I to 75% of the posts that are currently up. I see better social commentary & respect for righties from the guys at CT and most of them are unapologetic socialists.

Re: Philosophers Join the Fray

Matt — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 05:49:44 -0000

Wow. Much worse than expected. Looks like our nation's preeminent philosophers have reached the groundbreaking conclusion that driving an SUV demonstrates moral turpitude.

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Brian — Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:52:40 -0000

They don't seem to be off to a very good start. They are talking at people they insult by caricature.

This bunch has a classic left monologue: Talk until they agree with us. If they don't agree with us we haven't talked enough. Pfeh.